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∂24-Mar-84  1059	tsao@ISL 	MS program
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Date: Saturday, 24 Mar 1984 11:00-PST
To: LCS at SAIL
Cc: tsao at ISL
Subject: MS program
From: tsao at ISL

Sometime ago, you told me that you were going to do something that would
allow the MS program to run on a microcomputer.
We are thinking of buying a PC of some sort when we get back to 
Singapore and it would be great if there is an MS software package
that we could use. We may even be able to convince someone in Singapore
to acquire the hard and software required. Are you doing anything to 
make your program more marketable and accessible?
If you need some help,(I am not sure what I can do), I will be free
in August.I am attending the Stanford Sloan Program in September 1984 and
am taking the whole month of August off.
                         Vivien Tsao

∂22-Mar-84  1803	ME  	DART and 1600  
You can now say R DART and DENSITY 1600 and then dump whatever
files you want at 1600 bpi.  It only works for that core image,
so if you call out of Dart, you gotta start over.  READ MONCOM.UPD
for details.

∂08-Mar-84  1352	ME  	XGP available  
 ∂23-Feb-84  0735	LCS  	XGP 
Please let me know when the XGP-VRN-KA10 are once more available.
  Thanks,  LCS

ME - The KA and its devices are up again.

∂25-Feb-84  0036	ME  	XGP/KA    
 ∂23-Feb-84  0735	LCS  	XGP 
Please let me know when the XGP-VRN-KA10 are once more available.
  Thanks,  LCS

ME - Looks like it will be several more days.  We've been working on it
with little success at isolating the problem.  Sorry.  I'll certainly
announce it when the KA is working again.

∂23-Jan-84  2236	Mw@uci-750a 	Musical typography    
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Date: 23 Jan 84 22:37:23 PST (Mon)
To: LCS@Su-Ai
Subject: Musical typography
From: Mark Wadsworth <mw@uci-750a>

I have recently become interested in the printing of music. 
From the information I have found so far, music printing is largely a hand
process. Art Samuel told me that you have a very good music publishing
program.  Have you published any papers about it? I would be grateful for
any references or other information you can send me.

		Mark Wadsworth
		Dept. of Iynformation and Computer Science
		University of California, Irvine

∂22-Jan-84  2312	ME  	Dart 
 ∂21-Jan-84  1100	LCS  
Is there any chance of someday getting a program to copy old MTA0 DART tapes
directly to 1600 BPI MTU0 tapes?  This would be a very great time saver
for me since I want to get all my old stuff moved to CCRMA by next 
summer.  Let me know if there is anything I could do to help on this.
         LCS

ME - Yeah, there should be a way to do that with Dart, within a few months.

∂21-Jan-84  0917	ALS  
I have given your name to Mark Wadsworth(mw@uci-750a) in response to a
query about typesetting music.  You may hear from him.

∂17-Jan-84  0830	PW   
Is there a command to simple read parameter lists into MS.  READ, IN and
FILE all ask for staff number, etc.  I'm having to run a PTY job as it is.
Thanks.

∂26-Sep-83  1119	JJW  	MUSIC TRANSCRIBER  
SAIL had problems with this message, since it came in with the double-quotes in
the "From:" field.  In any case, here's a message intended for you:

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 ∂26-Sep-83  1029	 	MUSIC TRANSCRIBER 
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From: "Hammon Randy%LLL"@LLL-MFE.ARPA
Subject: MUSIC TRANSCRIBER
To: LCS@sail.arpa


  Gio Wiederhold gave me your name as a possible
source of information on computerized music
transcription. I am interested in a reasonable
method of doing such. This probably involves
interfacing a synthesizer equipped with some
sort of parameter transmission bus to a
microcomputer, or possibly to a mini. So far
I have investigated a number of commercially
available models including:
     
   Syntauri: They offer the AlphaSyntauri system
   that has some nice features as a synthesizer
   or multi-track recording system, but their
   Composer's Assistant, a musical transcriber
   that takes files of music stored in the micro
   is totally useless. It actually does turn
   these files into written music, but the format
   must be edited heavily to turn it into anything
   close to something that could be used or having
   a professional look. The editing process takes
   twice as long as would be taken to do it all
   by hand.
  
   Fairlight Instruments: I haven't had a demo
   of this, but it appears to be a superb system.
   The only problem is that it costs around 27k
   including hardware, printers and tons of 
   capabilites that only a serious recording studio
   would be able to use.

   Synclavier: I am waiting for the specs on this,
   but have heard it has the same problems as Fairlight
   does.

   Synergy: They are apparently doing a lot development
   in this area and are "supposed" to be releasing
   a nice music transcriber. Last I heard it was still
   being written, and we all know about vendors and
   their "soon to be available" products.

   What I'm looking for is a system that will allow one
to play music and have it transcribed into some reasonable
format, and then to be edited quickly into a close to
publishable form(I'm not interested in starting a business,
I just think this is reasonable). Is this too much to ask?   
   I would be vey grateful for any information on this.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
-Randy Hammon- Hammon%lll@lll-mfe.arpa

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∂02-Jul-83  2058	HYS  	perc. symbols 
I have now copied on [1,LCS] all of my code 11 library, to wit: PERC.DMD,
CRLN.DMD, and CRS.DMD.  Also PICT.MS.  Unfortunately, I have no time at
the moment to write documentation on them; suffice to know that those files
are needed to read any of my music I've put on the system.

If any future musicologists wants to know which pieces of mine are buried
in my area on MUSIC5, here is the list:
Promenade (1978), for trombone and perc.
Four Poems on Springtime (1980), for mezzo and chamber orch.
Conjunct Motion (1980), for cl. fg. cor. cb. pfte.
Voyages (1981), for 'cello and strings
Scherzo fantasque (1981), for violin and piano
"Hot ice and wondrous strange snow" (1982), for organ solo
Diurne (1982), for piano four-hands
Dream-troupe (1983), for 'cello and piano

Parts have been extracted wherever relevant.

I'm not at all sure how graceful a clean-up job I'll be able to do before
I leave for good.  Certainly I'm the only person who can find anything in
my area.  If MS ever gets available elsewhere, I hope to be able to get back
at all of those files in some form.

One more piece on the list:
Intermezzo (1971, rev. 1981), for full orch.

∂22-Jun-83  1425	LCS at CCRMA   
Date: 22 Jun 1983 1308-PDT
From: Leland Smith <LCS at CCRMA>
To:   LCS at SU-AI

G9:	MOVE RZ,.COMM.		;IF(R2.LE.900..AND.R2.NE.RN(L+2))GO TO GX
	CAMG RZ,[900.0]		; SET R2=999 TO LOOK AT ALL STAVES
	CAMN RZ,1(R)		;IF(R2.NE.RN(L+2))GO TO GX
	SKIPA
	JRST GX
   	MOVE	A,2(R)		;RN(L+3) IS IN A
	CAML	A,.COMM.+5 ;R4	***	CAML	A,RR4	;R4
	CAMLE	A,.COMM.+6 ;R5	***	CAMLE	A,RR4+1
	JRST	G2	;9	IF(OUTLIM(R4,R5,RN(L+3)))GO TO 2
LIM:	AOJ	J,   	;  IN LIMITS?


∂20-Jun-83  2224	LCS at CCRMA   
Date: 20 Jun 1983 2217-PDT
From: Leland Smith <LCS at CCRMA>
To:   LCS at SU-AI

	IF(I1.EQ.LEL)GO TO 680
C  L = LEFT, LP=LIGHT PEN, LI=LINE UP VERTICALLY

	IF(I1.EQ.LJJ)GO TO 1770
C  J = JUSTIFY   JT=JUSTIFY TEXT  JV=JUSTIFY VERTICALLY

680	IF(I1.EQ.LEE)GO TO 690
C ABOVE FOR 'ED' (WITH LIGHT PEN)
	IF(I2.NE.LII)GO TO 685
C *** LI = LINE UP ALL STAVES BASED ON STAFF 0
	IF(X22.NE.0)GO TO 130
CAN'T DO IT IF IN EDIT MODE
	CALL MSSET(1)
C THE 1 IN MSSET BECOMES 1*8-1=7 (FOR STAVES 0-7)
CC	CALL MSSET(R2,R4,R5,1,ITEM,NO,P,RHYX)
	GO TO 1320
685	IF(X22.EQ.0)GO TO 130

!
1770	IF(I2.EQ.IBLA)GO TO 1780
	IF(I2.EQ.LDD)GO TO 1060
C NOW 'CD', WHEN NOT IN EDIT MODE = CENTER ALL DASHES ON A LINE. (USES GRED)
	RD=43
C NEXT FOR ME=MENO=81 MOLTO=90 CRESC.=70 MP=43 MF=50, ALSO 'MACRO'
	IF(I2.EQ.LAA)GO TO 2400
	IF(I2.EQ.LFF)RD=50
	IF(I2.EQ.LOH)RD=90
	IF(I2.EQ.LEE)RD=81
	IF(I2.EQ.LRR)RD=70
	IF(I2.EQ.LTT)GO TO 1780
CCRMA	IF(I2.NE.LTT)GO TO 880
C JT=JUSTIFY TEXT (ONLY 1 STAFF AT A TIME)
	IF(I2.NE.LVV)GO TO 880
	IF(X22.NE.0)GO TO 260
C JV=JUSTIFY STAVES VERTICALLY (IN MSSUB.F4)
1775	CALL JUSTAV
	GO TO 1320
1780	CALL MOVER

∂06-Jun-83  0135	HYS  	clean-up and storage    
It looks as if I have finished my last significant manuscripting project
before I take off for good, now that I've done both the score and the part
for my new cello-and-piano piece.  I certainly would like to show the piece
to you at some point.  The piece is definitely vintage Shen.

One thing which I will need to do before leaving is to get everything on 
MUSIC5 under [220,HYS] in cold storage, presumably at CCRMA.  Please advise
on how to do this.  Also, you had advised a while back to make a copy of
[DAT,LCS] on MUSIC5, to be put under [DAT,HYS].  Are those files doing any
good in my area?

Is there any chance that you will have an exportable version of MS under
any form?  In that case, maybe I should have a tape copy of MUSIC5:*.*[220,HYS]
to take with me.  I will certainly miss your program.  Perhaps you could
convince Harvard to set up MS.  If it so happens that MS at some point would
be useable on some home machine, I'd certainly would like to hear about it.
It will be very hard to get back to pen-and-ink, especially since I've
started to sketch an orchestration for my 4-hand piece.

∂04-Jun-83  2212	HYS  	PAGE bug 
If you feel like grubbing around MUSIC5, the part extractor runs afoul
DREHC.MS and DREHD.MS [220,HYS].  If you make a control file which reads
DREHC.MS 1 1, and run it through the part extractor for the instrument
CELLO, you'll get an ill mem ref.  Running only DREHC or only DREHD does
not cause this problem.  Apparently, the problem has to do with the cue
extractor on staff 2 in DREHC.  Zeroing P10 for code 2 eliminates the
problem, though it also eliminates the cue.  I ended up by doing without
the cue.  There may also be some problem with DREMA or DREMB along the
same lines.  Somehow, I managed to railroad the entire piece through
(the complete control file is DREAM.).

VRN has run out of paper.



∂14-May-83  2224	HYS  	MStifying
I was looking for an inverse mordant with a flat on top, and found that you
didn't have one.  Ah well; I suppose you have to be a real classicist to
want one of those.  I put a flat on top separately.

Why is that, for normal notes, P6← 0 for black notes, and P6← -1 for white
ones, whereas when P4 ← X +200 (for diamond shapes), P6 ←0 for white diamonds,
and P6← -1 for black diamonds??  Unfortunately, there does not seem to be
a nice global command to get all the diamonds the right colour (and believe
it or not, I did find a use for a black diamond!)

Still using MS.OLD for justifying.

I'm not sure if I'll ever get used to using pen and ink again.  One project
I'm thinking of is orchestrating my recent 4-hand piece, and choice of paper
format is already a problem in itself.  If you can an MS I could use in
Cambridge, I'll never have to worry about pen and ink.

∂10-May-83  1802	tsao@ISL 	UNIX to FOONLY tapes
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Date: Tuesday, 10 May 1983 17:53-PDT
To: lcs at SAIL
Subject: UNIX to FOONLY tapes
From: tsao at ISL


	I have found a command `dd' on Unix that probably does what you
were told the `copy' command did. However, there are several format
conversions available. I have appended these below. If ebcdic or ibm
format is more suitable for your machine, let me know. Otherwise, I
shall attempt a direct (ascii) copy. 

Extract from manual:
     conv=ascii     convert EBCDIC to ASCII
          ebcdic    convert ASCII to EBCDIC
          ibm       slightly different map of ASCII to EBCDIC


     The ASCII/EBCDIC conversion tables are taken from the 256
     character standard in the CACM Nov, 1968.  The `ibm' conver-
     sion, while less blessed as a standard, corresponds better
     to certain IBM print train conventions.  There is no univer-
     sal solution.

					- tsao

∂02-May-83  0000	HYS  	Bug in justifying  
For a good time, take DREAA.DAT and DREAC.DAT from [220,HYS], read them in MS,
and then justify them.  In DREAA, I did  J 11 20 200, and in DREAC,
J 11 0 200.  Luckily, J did not screw up in MS.OLD.  As you can see, I need
to do much to justify my work.

Those files are from my new 'cello-and-piano piece which I hope I can knock
off here before I move.  One thing which I hope you will consider some day
is how to extend the end bracket to the 8va sign; you will see the problem
in DREAA.  Now that I'm cranking out yet another piece using piano, I am
once again using a lot of 8va bassa; you should really add the O- option
to score input mode.  (Even Chopin uses 8va bassa, so I don't think I'm
such a weirdo in writing a lot for that register.  I see that you have made
no provision for a 15ma bassa sign at all.)